How to STOP The Bench Barrier Manaphy

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OP0njii 1 year ago

I have started reecntly playing a Standard deck of Urshifu VMAX and Zeraora V which both do a TON of spread damage combine that with Passimin from Chilling reign and you have a pretty solid deck the only issue is that now in almost every single good deck we have the appearence of Manaphy with the ability Wave Veil, which says Prevent all damage done to your Benched Pokemon by attacks from your opponet's Pokemon. This puts an absolute stop to any spread damage. Sure you coulod Boss's Orders it out but that seems like a waste of a good card. Anyways please share your thoughts it would help a lot!

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Adamantite 11 months ago

There are many ways to stop manaphy, as you mentioned boss's orders and then atticking it is one. It may be a 'waste of a good card' but if you knock it out you can take a prize card AND get rid of it. But you could also use a card that would remove the ability and that would make it so it is no longer a bench barrier like galarian weezing, Jolteon, or klefki. You could use agetha but that wouldn't fully finish it off. AGetha technitly is not an 'attack by one of your opponent's pokemon' so moving damage counters might work. It much shakier with cards like altaria but it might work, I'm not sure. If you just didn't want to use boss's orders you could always use something else, depending on what format you are playing. Gust of wind works for unlimited but there are a ton of pokemon who have an attack that makes it so that you can switch it to the active pokemon, but even better, abilities. An attack would really be a chance because you don't know if they could switch back so it is a risk but if you have a card with an ability that switches and does 70 damage that's a free prize card and a defense down. But that is harder to do then just plain cancelling the ability so there are many ways you can aproach this. That is what I have come up with so far.

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chookling 10 months ago

One of the big ideas with neutralising Manaphy is Cancelling Cologne. It is an item which says 'until the end of your opponent's next turn, your opponent's active Pokémon has no abilities.' If you do Boss's Orders to bring manaphy to the active, then cancelling cologne, then RS Urshifu or Zeraora V to knock it out and something on the bench as well.

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Adamantite 10 months ago

Nope canceling cologne only does it until the end of your turn, but that's when you actually need it.

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chookling 9 months ago

It still works though, doesn't it? I mean it's until after your attack, so it should be fine?

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Octowen 9 months ago

Chookling is right. People do this in Chien-Pao. The idea is you Boss Manaphy, play Canceinf Cologne (which stops Manaphy's Wave Veil until the end of your turn), attack, knock out Manaphy and snipe one of your opponent's benched Pokémon (because Wave Veil is disabled), and then you've got Manaphy out of the way and some added damage.

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CardTroller 9 months ago

no, use weezing neutralizing gas to disable all abilities

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CardTroller 9 months ago

it unfortunatley blocks all of your abilities except neutralizing gas though

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Adamantite 9 months ago

Another way to stop it would be cancelling cologne or empoleon v. Those both work pretty well.

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Octowen 9 months ago
CardTroller:

no, use weezing neutralizing gas to disable all abilities

Neutralizing Gas Weezing is no longer in standard format.

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